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• newbie -- hi
  2007-05-19 03:13:05 tefflox [Reply | View]
  
  hi, i'm following the developments here, also http://stamen.com. while i do program in java, i did not attend the conference, tho all of your comments are enlightening. i have nothing but good expectations for JavaFX, and for you.

• duh. the consumer jre.
  2007-05-17 11:50:26 ilazarte [Reply | View]
  
  javafx is frosting as far as i'm concerned. it'll be nice to add another scripting language to the mix, but customers only care about whether or not this damn program is loading.

• "Reliable" is more important than fast
  2007-05-14 15:52:32 cayhorstmann [Reply | View]
  
  I'll be glad for a fast-loading JRE. But fast isn't going to help me if the basics don't work. My problem is reliability. (And I am not alone--see http://www.dynamicobjects.com/d2r/archives/002859.html or http://www.salas.com/weblogs/archives/000529.html or http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t82957.html#92054708) I want to give the required JRE version in a descriptor (JNLP or whatever), and then I just want my app to run on my users' machines. I don't want to build an infrastructure of version-sensing JavaScript. I don't want my users to have to navigate a maze of incomprehensible gobbledygook. I don't want a significant fraction of my users tell me that the browser association was broken and all they saw is the JNLP file, or that the spinning coffee cup never stopped spinning, or that a splash screen briefly appears and then nothing happens, or their browser hung and they had to restart it. I don't want them to ask me what they should do with the 300 .jnlp files on their desktop. (I suggest they forward them to Bob Brewin :-))
• "Reliable" is more important than fast
  2007-05-16 04:08:31 jwenting [Reply | View]
  
  realibility is indeed far more important than raw performance.
  If the JVM crashes every 10 minutes (or even every 10 days) it's useless to us. We need uptimes measured in months if not years (the time between software upgrades) for our application servers, and at least days for workstations.

• Runtime is fundamental
  2007-05-14 13:06:11 prime21 [Reply | View]
  
  I almost voted for JavaFX (which I am extremely excited about). However, what good is JavaFX if we don't have a slick, easy, small, "no friction" installer for the JRE required to process JavaFX Script?
  
  JavaFX is awesome, and I plan to use it... A lot, but I would be plenty happy just using plain old Swing for applets/apps if the JRE were 2MB (like Flash player 9) instead of 13MB.