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  2. JSR358-42

Language in the JSR 336 TCK license appears to prohibit implementations of the Spec

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      The TCK license for JSR 336 contains the following language in the definition of Product:

      "In addition, to be a Product, a Licensee product that implements a Java Environment Specification must: (a) have a principal purpose which is substantially different from a stand-alone implementation of that specification, while the value-added portion of the product operates in conjunction with the portion that implements the Java Environment Specification; (b) represent a significant functional and value enhancement over any stand-alone implementation of that specification; and (c) not be marketed as a technology which replaces or substitutes for a stand-alone implementation of that specification."

      This appears to prohibit any implementation of the spec!

      [Later: insert pointer to Gil Tene's presentation given at the Prague f2f meeting.]

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        pcurran created issue -
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        ebresie added a comment - Is this the presentation in question? http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2012-09-1112/JCP_Sep2012_IndependentImplementation.pdf
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        gtene added a comment -

        This "newer" language appears as part of the stated TCK license terms of Platform JSRs filed after Dec. 2010:

        • SE 7 under JSR 336
        • SE 8 under JSR 337
        • EE 7 under JSR 342

        It should be noted that these newer TCK license terms stand in strong contrast to the license terms communicated for previous versions of the same platforms. They expand restrictions far beyond the field-of-use and commercial terms license issues of previous platform versions. At face value, the new terms basically prevent the creation and testing of a compatible implementation of the platform specifications without securing a separately negotiated license from the spec lead with terms that are unkown-at-time-of-JSR-approval.

        See previous license language in older platform versions:

        • SE 6 under JSR 270
        • EE 6 under JSR 313
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        gtene added a comment - This "newer" language appears as part of the stated TCK license terms of Platform JSRs filed after Dec. 2010: SE 7 under JSR 336 SE 8 under JSR 337 EE 7 under JSR 342 It should be noted that these newer TCK license terms stand in strong contrast to the license terms communicated for previous versions of the same platforms. They expand restrictions far beyond the field-of-use and commercial terms license issues of previous platform versions. At face value, the new terms basically prevent the creation and testing of a compatible implementation of the platform specifications without securing a separately negotiated license from the spec lead with terms that are unkown-at-time-of-JSR-approval. See previous license language in older platform versions: SE 6 under JSR 270 EE 6 under JSR 313

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