Antonio/all,After some discussions at JavaOne, most EC Members and a few Spec Leads I spoke to seem either not interested or believe, SLF4J is the unspoken standard already, so they don't really care about a new Logging JSR either.Logging in and for the Cloud might be the only aspect interesting enough, but I am afraid, you and maybe a few other people might be at least a decade ahead in caring about those things (I was also pleasantly amused at JavaOne Embedded to see a great Hype has become of stuff I did 10 years ago like Mobile Web remote-controlling smart appliances and greenhouse control systems)JavaOne Embedded introduced little known upcoming JSRs, including the Embedded counterpart to EE if you like: http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=360Aiming to add features currently in SE/EE like java.util.logging, there would be a chance to do something useful by adding a Logging abstraction layer both for Embedded and upcoming EE releases (part of EE8 I assume, SE may still wait till 9 introduces Modularity)This recent DZone article probably highlights best, why "PaaS Logging" (Remote or Distributed Logging, also and especially applicable to Mobile/Embedded devices with no or very limited storage capacity of their own) could be one of the key aspects driving such an initiative after all.I was involved in a project where we used NIO and SLF4J plus Log4J for Distributed Logging to remote databases, and I was among the driving architects there, so I know a bit about that.While it probably should be done in a proper way, as a coincidence "Java Thief" Google seem to be the only ones that seriously dealt with Remote Logging using JUL so far:http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/javadoc/latest/com/google/gwt/logging/server/RemoteLoggingServiceUtil.htmlI'm afraid, while that lawsuit is still going on as a Never-ending Story, we are going to see little input and help by Google on that.Not everybody seems to use SLF4J, e.g. JBoss Cloud Service OpenShift, just as one example:Another use case for Apache Commons Logging we saw during Mark Reinhold's Jigsaw keynote (featuring 2 logging frameworks on a Raspberry Pi) and those who saw it, know, how well that one went...Regards,--
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[javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: Logs. Should we finally do something ?