[javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: Application ready event
- From: Markus Eisele <myfear@...>
- To: jsr342-experts@...
- Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: Application ready event
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:51:06 +0100
- List-id: <jsr342-experts.javaee-spec.java.net>
i'm undecided. We already have a couple (i beliebe it's probably more
than 7) of ways to "get things started"
What exactly should be the added value here?
On 28 November 2012 19:39, Pete Muir <pmuir@...> wrote:
> A long requested feature from the community has been for some sort of
> "application ready" event, which is fired just before the application is
> put into service, and starts handling external requests.
> Some use cases:
> * Loading/processing some data, for example data that's been collected
> whilst the application was down
> * Starting timers or async events
> * Other application initialization tasks
> This event should happen once all services (e.g. CDI, BV, JPA, EJB, JTA)
> required by the application are ready.
> There may be some optional services, e.g. those that are started on demand,
> that are not required, and do not need to be ready for this event to be
> sent. This event should happen before the application starts handling
> external requests (e.g. web service requests, web requests, ejb remote
> invocations). In general, it seems sane that an application cannot handle
> requests successfully until all required services are available.
> For the purposes of this proposal, we define external request as one
> originating from outside the application deployment, and internal as one
> originating from inside the application deployment.
> In order to tackle this problem one step at a time, we propose we start by
> just considering external requests as those coming in via the Servlet
> container. This should make the problem more manageable!
> Should the application wish to perform some sync task, and allow the
> application to handle requests, whilst performing it, this also needs to be
> Finally, the application needs to be able to say to the server that it is
> ready to start servicing requests.
> We would propose that we need to make these changes to the spec.
> 1) We send a CDI event when the required services are ready
> 2) By default this event *does not* block the server immediately moving to
> servicing external requests
> 3) The observer of this event is able to act as though it were executing
> during application runtime, and can make any internal call. If it makes an
> external call to itself, that call will not succeed
> 4) We introduce the ability to suspend external requests, until the event
> observers complete, or until the external requests are told to proceed. We
> propose for now we focus on web requests and add a servlet context
> parameter that enable the ability to suspend external requests, and add a
> ServletContext.ready() method, that tells the request completes. In future
> iterations we need to address other remote protocols. The observers can
> make this call at any point, at which point the app starts processing
> external requests, the observer may continue to execute beyond here.