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[javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: Wish-List for EE 8

  • From: Antonio Goncalves <antonio.goncalves@...>
  • To: jsr342-experts@...
  • Subject: [javaee-spec users] [jsr342-experts] Re: Wish-List for EE 8
  • Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:32:47 +0200
  • List-id: <jsr342-experts.javaee-spec.java.net>

I think that is two different topics.

Back at Devoxx BE 2009, Java EE 6 was going to be released and there was
already talks about "Java EE 7 and the Cloud". Being involved in Java EE
and the JCP, plenty of people came to me saying "really, Java EE 7 and the
Cloud ?". I felt I had nothing to say : no consultation between spec leads
and expert members. If I go to a 1h BOF at JavaOne about Java EE 8, what
would I say ? I don't know what the spec leads have in mind. I don't know
what Java EE 8 will be. I would just seat in the room and listen.

What I am proposing is : let's kickoff Java EE 8, at least, between spec
leads and expert members (if "adoptajsr" adepts want to join, great), agree
on a road map, and then, we can all go to BOFs, conferences, gatherings...
and present what Java EE 8 will be. With Java EE 7 I would always started
my presentations saying "Oracle wants Cloud in Java EE 7, but most of the
expert members don't". That's not a very positive message and doesn't bring
cohesion to the group.

Antonio

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Markus Eisele <myfear@...> wrote:

> Hi Antonio,
>
> As John D. A. pointed out on twitter it might not be the right way to do
> this in a closed circle round. I would offer my insights and I would for
> sure accept such an invitation from oracle but I must say that I would love
> to see a more open (transparent) approach here.
> Might be this could be an adopt-a-JSR effort or some kind of survey.
>
> Cheers,
> M
>
> Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 schrieb Antonio Goncalves :
>
> Hi all,
>>
>> I was wondering if we could use JavaOne to brainstorm on Java EE 8. And
>> I'm not just talking about a one hour BOF between some spec leads/expert
>> members and developers, I am more thinking of a half day with only spec
>> leads and expert members.
>>
>> To be honest, I felt very frustrated when Oracle announced "Java EE 7
>> being Cloudish". Nobody asked what the expert members thought of such
>> announcement, of what they had in their mind for the future of the plaform.
>>
>> What do you think of physically meeting before/during/after JavaOne and
>> start shaping the future of the platform ?
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Markus Eisele <myfear@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> after the buzz around the EE 7 release is silencing a bit I just
>>> wanted to take the opportunity to send around a link I came across
>>> yesterday:
>>>
>>> http://arjan-tijms.blogspot.de/2013/07/java-ee-8-wish-list.html
>>>
>>> Arjan compiled a list of things he would love to see in EE 8. Good to
>>> see some of it already on the list but also some new things like
>>> spending some time to modernize the security frameworks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> - Markus
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antonio Goncalves
>> Software architect and Java Champion
>>
>> Web site <http://www.antoniogoncalves.org> | 
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>>
>


-- 
Antonio Goncalves
Software architect and Java Champion

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Twitter<http://twitter.com/agoncal>|
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