[JSR-354] Re: JavaOne in SF without JSR 354 !
- From: Victor Grazi <vgrazi@...>
- To: "jcurrency_mail@..." <jcurrency_mail@...>
- Cc: Patrick Curran <patrick@...>, Ben Evans <benjamin.john.evans@...>, "Cech Previtali Susanne (KIVO)" <susanne.cechprevitali@...>, "Baldry Scot (CS)" <scot.baldry@...>
- Subject: [JSR-354] Re: JavaOne in SF without JSR 354 !
- Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:10:10 -0400
Anatole, I don't think I would take it too personally. I know they do have
a strict vetting process, and they don't override it.
Our CIO once called Scott McNealy to get a talk in, and McNealy told him
politely to take a walk, even though we were a huge account.
Obviously there might be some slack and they didn't choose to leverage
that. But I don't really think it is in their interest to override the
Anyway, maybe someone else could have a chat with Sharat or Steven Chin,
but that was the best information I could obtain.
On Thursday, June 27, 2013, Anatole Tresch wrote:
> Hi Victor
> Nice to hear, but nevertheless this has some really bad smell for me.
> Basically we are a running JSR and also at the last EC meeting in May it
> was stated that it is an important one for Oracle. Also this was agreed by
> all EC members. It was clearly stated in the EC meeting that it is very
> important to our JSR to gain more awareness in the community. And it is
> exact that what now is prevented. So this is not only disappointing, it
> makes me personally really upset to say it frankly. It looks like non
> Oracle driven JSRs are second class members here, and I ask me, if Oracle
> really understands what it means cooperating with the Java community.
> So for me this is still no excuse at all and I am still not willing to
> accept that.
>> Hi all
>> I spoke to Sharat and unfortunately our talk was not selected due to
>> insufficient voter interest by the selection committee.
>> He told me we scored very high but I guess not high enough to win a spot
>> So I guess we will have to tell our story through the BOF venue
>> Sorry I don't have better news.
>> 'cvml', 'werner.keil@...');>>
>>> P.s.: Beside a BOF (proposing it only for the "Main Conference", we had
>>> 2 proposals, but I agreed with Stephen Chin, that he'd "merge" them, was
>>> maybe not a good idea) or Hands-on-Lab which Anatole, Victor and others
>>> with ties to OC might ask about, there is also a format called "*
>>> Unconference*" famously used at JavaOnes for quite some years now. Even
>>> Parleys.com records some of them.
>>> I presented Agile Project Management tools there once in 2011 and the
>>> room was packed, even official folks from Oracle in this area came by. So
>>> an Unconference at a strategically convenient time (e.g. maybe not during
>>> Keynote[?]) can sometimes attract a bigger and better crowd, than if you
>>> get a BOF or lab slot at 9:30pm.
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