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[jsr339-experts] Re: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect

  • From: Santiago Pericas-Geertsen <Santiago.PericasGeertsen@...>
  • To: jsr339-experts@...
  • Subject: [jsr339-experts] Re: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect
  • Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:54:42 -0500


On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Jan Algermissen <jan.algermissen@...> wrote:

> 
> On 30.01.2013, at 20:54, Bill Burke <bburke@...> wrote:
> 
>
>
>> On 1/30/2013 11:32 AM, Marek Potociar wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I follow how the EJB async "fire-and-forget" nature relates 
>>> to HTTP.
>
>> Exactly my point, it doesn't relate, so you can't use it with JAX-RS. HTTP 
>> expects a response, 'void' + @Asychronous, there is no response for EJB 
>> clients.
>
>>> All we are saying is that the HTTP response is returned on a different 
>>> thread that the one received the request.
>
>> Back to our old argument, so I won't go there...
>
>>> Async EJBs is one way how to delegate request processing to another 
>>> (managed) thread in a JEE container.
>
>> Wrong.  Async EJBs is so that the client execute one or more tasks in the 
>> background.  It has nothing to do with managed threads in the Java EE 
>> container other than a possible implementation detail.
> 
> Aha - that would explain why EJB does not provide a way to select the 
> thread pool for the new thread in @Asynchronous. I found that to be really 
> missing from a design POV. Not implying a new threads explains that.

 Actually, there will likely be changes to the EJB spec with the introduction 
of JSR 236. The idea of "surfacing" rather than "hiding" threads is becoming 
more important with 236.

-- Santiago




[jsr339-experts] Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect

Bill Burke 01/30/2013

[jsr339-experts] Re: [jax-rs-spec users] Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect

Marek Potociar 01/30/2013

[jsr339-experts] Re: [jax-rs-spec users] Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect

Bill Burke 01/30/2013

[jsr339-experts] Re: [jax-rs-spec users] Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect

Jan Algermissen 01/30/2013

[jsr339-experts] Re: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect

Santiago Pericas-Geertsen 01/31/2013

[jsr339-experts] Re: [jax-rs-spec users] Re: Spec's reference of EJB's @Asynchronous is incorrect

Marek Potociar 01/30/2013
 
 
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