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[JIRA] Commented: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

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  • Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:21:53 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
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pcurran commented on JSR355-7:
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*From Mark Little (RedHat)*

I  realize it was only a strawpoll yesterday but I would like to discuss the 
issue around keeping the number of yes votes needed to approve a JSR to 5 
even when the membership changes to 25. I do understand the point that 
raising this threshold might make it harder for some ME JSRs to be adopted, 
but let's try and look at this objectively: we would be saying the a JSR only 
needs to get 20% of the votes in order to be adopted. Put another way, 80% of 
the membership could reject or ignore a proposal and it could still be 
accepted. Now let's think about what kind of message that sends to the wider 
community.

I believed that a threshold should be set that is first based on a percentage 
of the overall membership and second is at a level that takes shows the 
committee and the submitters worked to justify the adoption of the work in 
question. It should not be easy for a standard to be created. It should be a 
struggle at times and although we shouldn't put artificial barriers in place 
to prevent innovation, neither should we be simply allowing in everything 
that comes in front of us. Now I am in no way suggesting that that is what we 
do, but to an external observer setting a vote threshold at 20% really 
doesn't make that clear. I think the current 33% is on the low side, but it's 
better than 20%.


> Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSR355-7
>                 URL: http://java.net/jira/browse/JSR355-7
>             Project: jsr355
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: pcurran
>
> * The current requirement of 5 yes votes for JSR approval is equivalent to 
> approximately 1/3 of the membership of the separate ECs.
> ** The equivalent number for a combined EC of 25 would be 8 yes votes.
> ** For the 2012-2013 year, when the EC has 30 members, the equivalent would 
> be 10 yes votes.
> * Should we consider the current 5-vote requirement as an absolute number 
> (if we have this many votes then OK) or as a percentage (we need at least 
> 2/3 of those eligible to vote?)
> The current EG consensus is that we should not change this requirement.

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[JIRA] Commented: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

pcurran (JIRA) 02/08/2012

[JIRA] Commented: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

pcurran (JIRA) 02/08/2012

[JIRA] Commented: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

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[JIRA] Issue Comment Edited: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

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[JIRA] Commented: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

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[JIRA] Commented: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

pcurran (JIRA) 02/09/2012

[JIRA] Issue Comment Edited: (JSR355-7) Increase the minimum number of "yes" votes for JSR approval?

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