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[JSR 358 Observer] [JSR358 EG] Re: Fw: Re: Re: Minutes from today's IP Working Group meeting

  • From: calinel pasteanu < >
  • To: Werner Keil < >
  • Cc: < >
  • Subject: [JSR 358 Observer] [JSR358 EG] Re: Fw: Re: Re: Minutes from today's IP Working Group meeting
  • Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:54:48 +0100
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On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Werner Keil wrote:

Calinel,
 
Thanks for the quick response. MSA was called defunct several times most regular in the EC, I am not the “factory” for these statements, just remembering them<wlEmoticon-winkingsmile[1].png>

you might confuse it with 249 ....
248 was finalized, deployed and even in maintenance 2 years later ( see jcp.org ) 

Would be curious to learn, which handset, e.g. by Nokia ever really used it?

one of the alternatives to get info would be this one :


Mobile Sensor API, at least an “Optional JSR” for MSA btw. has never really made it into any of the phones.
Had to seperately install it with a setup by Nokia, which even states “This is experimental, not Production ready, use at your own risk”<wlEmoticon-surprisedsmile[1].png>
 
Of course, Kay wasn’t the only one for Vodafone, but you should know, he was a contractor, unless he didn’t tell it until later when we met on other occasions.

yes, everybody knew it, but this is irrelevant as he was identical with a regular VF employee at that time and from the JCP pov 

We see many cases, where people who represent a company before, that (Vodafone probably isn’t interested at all or still member?) later join as Individuals. That may not be so in Kay’s case, but imagine someone who was in a similar position and joined as Individual Member after that, you probably get the point.  The only notable case of a Spec Lead who joined as Individual, while actually being employed by a non-member AFAIK may be Bob Lee, but JSR 330 is finished and no follow-up work looks like it’s lead by him any time soon.
 
Werner
Werner,
you seem to own a "factory" to create confusions, see inline.
Calinel
 
On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Werner Keil wrote:

All,

One thing Calinel probably wasn't aware of, but occured at least for MSA, is, that one of the Spec Leads for Vodafone, Kay Glahn was in fact an external consultant, pretty much like an Individual acting on behalf of Vodafone in these JSRs and the EC for some time.

 
Kay Glahn "was not acting pretty much like an individual" he was working behind the Vodafone signed JSPA and there were several Vodafone representatives for 248 not only Kay.

Constellations like these look interesting and could be relevant for the Individual Member discussion Bruno plans

Am 27.01.2013 20:23 schrieb "Werner Keil" < "> >:

Besides, while it is good to know, some Umbrella JSRs were lead by other members than Sun/Oracle in the past, hearing MSA (248) which was defunct and never resulted in actual products

based on the finalized 248 there were several products based on the RFIs created by MNOs

or devices using it, with its successor (249) being Dormant doesn't make me feel very comfortable...

 



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[JSR 358 Observer] [JSR358 EG] Re: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Minutes from today's IP Working Group meeting

Werner Keil 01/27/2013

[JSR 358 Observer] [JSR358 EG] Re: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Minutes from today's IP Working Group meeting

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[JSR 358 Observer] [JSR358 EG] Re: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Minutes from today's IP Working Group meeting

calinel pasteanu 01/28/2013

[JSR 358 Observer] [JSR358 EG] Re: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Minutes from today's IP Working Group meeting

Werner Keil 01/28/2013

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Werner Keil 01/28/2013

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Werner Keil 01/28/2013

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