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[jsr360-observers] [jsr360-experts] Re: [jsr361-observers] [jsr361-experts] Re: Re: Re: Version numbering for MEEP

  • From: Michael Lagally < >
  • To: , Werner Keil < >, Volker Bauche < >
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  • Subject: [jsr360-observers] [jsr360-experts] Re: [jsr361-observers] [jsr361-experts] Re: Re: Re: Version numbering for MEEP
  • Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:49:46 +0200
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear JSR360 experts,<div><br></div><div>there's a discussion started on the JSR361 mailing list related to the CLDC8 version numbering scheme.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand that Werner suggests to rename the "@since" tags in the CLDC spec to be aligned with the&nbsp;</div><div>conventions used in Java SE, i.e. to change them to be "since CLDC 1.8" instead of "CLDC 8".</div><div><br></div><div><div>To avoid confusion and make sure that all JSR360 EG members take part in the discussion,</div><div>please let's continue the discussion here.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Michael</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 05.08.2013, at 11:35, Werner Keil wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">There is however an inconsistency between SE 8 (its JSR also says "Java SE 8"&nbsp;<a href="http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=337";>http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=337</a>) take a newly introduced class like Clock where JavaDoc says since&nbsp;<span style="color:rgb(53,56,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">1.8</span><br>
and how we (most EG Members are in both JSRs, so "we" sounds like a safe bet here) handle this for CLDC 8 (1.8)<div><br></div><div>Is that on purpose?</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Volker Bauche <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:
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      </a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>We have to differ between:<br>
      <br>
      Platform level name: CLDC 8<br>
      Spec: CLDC 8<br>
      Configuration version: CLDC-1.8.0<br>
      microedition.configuration: CLDC-1.8<br>
      <br>
      So we have at least as the name of the spec and also to be used in
      javadocs etc.<br>
      "CLDC 8" and "MEEP 8" which is good and consistent.<br>
      <br>
      -Volker<br>
      <br>
      Am 05.08.2013 11:24, schrieb Werner Keil:<br>
    </div><div><div class="h5">
    <blockquote type="cite">Well at the moment it simply says "<span style="color:rgb(53,56,51);font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">CLDC
        8</span>" in JavaDocs e.g. of the previews. Given the code-base
      uses things introduced in Java 8 or earlier, a simple "1.8" or so
      could be confusing. Good question is, whether CLDC's internal
      version number is 8.0.0 or 1.8.0 like the SE equivalent (also for
      some applications which may run on both, I recall some Eclipse
      projects running into trouble when ICU4J changed and the 50.x+
      versions went into this year's Kepler release train<span>&lt;347.gif&gt;</span>)
      <div>
        <br>
      </div>
      <div>Werner<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:15 AM,
          Lampart Thomas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:
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      </a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Volker,
            experts,<br>
            <br>
            Looks much better to me.<br>
            Only one question: What will be the version numbers for the
            related CLDC ?<br>
            Will it be "CLDC 8" and "CLDC-8.0.0" then ? Which would be
            good.<br>
            Or will it still be "CLDC-1.8.0" ?<br>
            <br>
            Kind regards<br>
            <span><font color="#888888">&nbsp; Thomas<br>
              </font></span>
            <div>
              <div><br>
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                Subject: [jsr361-experts] Version numbering for MEEP<br>
                <br>
                Dear experts,<br>
                <br>
                coming back to my action item about need to improve the
                something confusing version numbering for MEEP in the
                current draft of the spec, I have discussed this with
                ME8 archtects and reflected our discussion during the
                call last week.<br>
                The outcome proposal is to have the following, much more
                consistent version numbers now:<br>
                <br>
                Platform-level name: "MEEP 8"<br>
                Spec: "MEEP-8"<br>
                Profile version: "MEEP-8.0.0"<br>
                microedition.profile value: "MEEP-8.0"<br>
                <br>
                I think this is the variant matching our ideas raised
                during the call<br>
                best:: everything is "8", no confusion between "8" and
                "1.x".<br>
                <br>
                Pls. let me know if you like this solution, then I can
                fix this in the next (and PR) draft version.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks -<br>
                Volker<br>
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